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		<title>By: Spooler_Go_4</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/11/comments_and_questions_after_getting_slashdotted/comment-page-1/#comment-2862</link>
		<dc:creator>Spooler_Go_4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spooler_Go_79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spooler_Go_79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spooler_Go_31</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spooler_Go_31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ETech@Work</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/11/comments_and_questions_after_getting_slashdotted/comment-page-1/#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>ETech@Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew,

Interesting to read about your experience. As someone who thinks of himself as well over 15% geek/nerd, I used to identify myself with the denizens of Slashdot.

Until I got Slashdotted.

The first thing that came to mind was a Chinese proverb: &#039;Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.&#039;

In fact, my publisher told me to pay them no mind. Odd, isn&#039;t it-- to be published and yet be ignored?

However, there was an upside in that many people themselves eschewed the Slashdot forum and went right to the source. I received countless emails and even phone calls from people who responded positively and had something to say in return.

I&#039;m not sure Slashdot is really an example of broken communication between suits and nerds as it  is a reflection of people badly wanting to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew,</p>
<p>Interesting to read about your experience. As someone who thinks of himself as well over 15% geek/nerd, I used to identify myself with the denizens of Slashdot.</p>
<p>Until I got Slashdotted.</p>
<p>The first thing that came to mind was a Chinese proverb: &#8216;Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.&#8217;</p>
<p>In fact, my publisher told me to pay them no mind. Odd, isn&#8217;t it&#8211; to be published and yet be ignored?</p>
<p>However, there was an upside in that many people themselves eschewed the Slashdot forum and went right to the source. I received countless emails and even phone calls from people who responded positively and had something to say in return.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure Slashdot is really an example of broken communication between suits and nerds as it  is a reflection of people badly wanting to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthieu Hug</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/11/comments_and_questions_after_getting_slashdotted/comment-page-1/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthieu Hug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in smarties, even though idiots do exist. And the person from Slashdot you quoted is indeed an idiot: no matter his brightness, whoever doesn&#039;t take time to understand others or believes in being brighter proves his insane stupidity. So taking time to write a full blog entry about that  honours you, Andrew, but to some extent you shouldn&#039;t really bother...

Speaking about your HBR article though, I believe it is a fairly good  summary of all the issues met between IT and business departments; the details you give on the adoption issue are especially important and should be the cornerstone of any significant IT project. I believe though that you understated some important points:

1) As you concluded (too) quickly, the value IT (and particularly &quot;EIT&quot;) is not within technology and software, it lies within the way all technology pieces are chosen and put together to support or enhance business process. This also implies a high degree of accountability for the CIO. Putting pieces of software side to side is fine on your PC, but it doesn&#039;t make an information system with business value, whatever the value of the individual pieces.

2) In many organizations, IT is easy to point out whenever internal process aren&#039;t efficient. Simply because in information-oriented industries, IT lies in the middle of the company: it is the focal point of all activities as it ensures the flow of information. Hence a lack of sponsorship for IT (starting with the CIO not being a member of the executive committee) will hide necessary process&#039; improvments, sooner or later. Hence the level of accountability of IT is a major organisational issue in my opinion; probably higher than for most departments has IT is deemed to run entreprise-wide process.

3) Finally IT (or rather &quot;IS&quot;, for information systems) can be divided &quot;vertically&quot; into FIT, NIT and EIT as you did. But from a communication perspective I think it shall be viewed more &quot;horizontally&quot;: 
- business process: the CIO should not be the main business advisor on end to end process. He or she should create and lead committees such as the BPOC you spoke about. A well run IT is the place  within the company where anyone can get a transversal view of the company&#039;s process. It also implies that IT should be able to handle that, hence being able to listen to and understand business issues from most departments within the company. It also implies to bring value to the company&#039;s managers, through performance indicators based on the business process.

- technology advisor: detect opportunities, bring new ideas and opportunities to the business (ex: impact of RFID and what&#039;s the associated B-case? More complicated: benefits of email when we were back in the early 90&#039;s?). And explain them: you don&#039;t really understand what you can&#039;t explain clearly.

- technical implementation: from technical projects&#039; management to software integration to development, depending on what is most suited. On that layer you could still make an important differentiation between non critical  and critical implementation, from business perspective (ex: a HR tool vs. a factory&#039;s MES), the later requiring a deep understanding of the company&#039;s business.


The whole point is that running IT is not about being a technologist, but about ensuring a company wide coherence of business process, and  having the ability to understand and associate both business issues and technology opportunities. And if IT can&#039;t communicate about it, it&#039;s worth nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in smarties, even though idiots do exist. And the person from Slashdot you quoted is indeed an idiot: no matter his brightness, whoever doesn&#8217;t take time to understand others or believes in being brighter proves his insane stupidity. So taking time to write a full blog entry about that  honours you, Andrew, but to some extent you shouldn&#8217;t really bother&#8230;</p>
<p>Speaking about your HBR article though, I believe it is a fairly good  summary of all the issues met between IT and business departments; the details you give on the adoption issue are especially important and should be the cornerstone of any significant IT project. I believe though that you understated some important points:</p>
<p>1) As you concluded (too) quickly, the value IT (and particularly &#8220;EIT&#8221;) is not within technology and software, it lies within the way all technology pieces are chosen and put together to support or enhance business process. This also implies a high degree of accountability for the CIO. Putting pieces of software side to side is fine on your PC, but it doesn&#8217;t make an information system with business value, whatever the value of the individual pieces.</p>
<p>2) In many organizations, IT is easy to point out whenever internal process aren&#8217;t efficient. Simply because in information-oriented industries, IT lies in the middle of the company: it is the focal point of all activities as it ensures the flow of information. Hence a lack of sponsorship for IT (starting with the CIO not being a member of the executive committee) will hide necessary process&#8217; improvments, sooner or later. Hence the level of accountability of IT is a major organisational issue in my opinion; probably higher than for most departments has IT is deemed to run entreprise-wide process.</p>
<p>3) Finally IT (or rather &#8220;IS&#8221;, for information systems) can be divided &#8220;vertically&#8221; into FIT, NIT and EIT as you did. But from a communication perspective I think it shall be viewed more &#8220;horizontally&#8221;:<br />
- business process: the CIO should not be the main business advisor on end to end process. He or she should create and lead committees such as the BPOC you spoke about. A well run IT is the place  within the company where anyone can get a transversal view of the company&#8217;s process. It also implies that IT should be able to handle that, hence being able to listen to and understand business issues from most departments within the company. It also implies to bring value to the company&#8217;s managers, through performance indicators based on the business process.</p>
<p>- technology advisor: detect opportunities, bring new ideas and opportunities to the business (ex: impact of RFID and what&#8217;s the associated B-case? More complicated: benefits of email when we were back in the early 90&#8242;s?). And explain them: you don&#8217;t really understand what you can&#8217;t explain clearly.</p>
<p>- technical implementation: from technical projects&#8217; management to software integration to development, depending on what is most suited. On that layer you could still make an important differentiation between non critical  and critical implementation, from business perspective (ex: a HR tool vs. a factory&#8217;s MES), the later requiring a deep understanding of the company&#8217;s business.</p>
<p>The whole point is that running IT is not about being a technologist, but about ensuring a company wide coherence of business process, and  having the ability to understand and associate both business issues and technology opportunities. And if IT can&#8217;t communicate about it, it&#8217;s worth nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: Where&apos;s the Upside ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where&apos;s the Upside ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hit upon the nub of what is happening and ever has been during the 30+ years I&#039;ve spent in and around IT. 

There is an issue around status that many business people choose to ignore. Yet IT knows it can kill projects any time it likes. 

Look at the number of &#039;religious&#039; Oracle, IBM, M$ or SAP shops. Not one of these, you don&#039;t get through the door. Forget common sense, economics or rational decision making.

In other words Andrew, it isn&#039;t just one or the other but both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit upon the nub of what is happening and ever has been during the 30+ years I&#8217;ve spent in and around IT. </p>
<p>There is an issue around status that many business people choose to ignore. Yet IT knows it can kill projects any time it likes. </p>
<p>Look at the number of &#8216;religious&#8217; Oracle, IBM, M$ or SAP shops. Not one of these, you don&#8217;t get through the door. Forget common sense, economics or rational decision making.</p>
<p>In other words Andrew, it isn&#8217;t just one or the other but both.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Evans-Greenwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Evans-Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunatly the level of hubris shown in the slashdot comments is common in the IT community. In the just last couple of months I&#039;ve read blogs compaining that IT doesn&#039;t get the respect it deserves for being the smartest group of people in the company, I was present at a presentation advocating spaghetti-oriented architectures (since the heads of business folk are just full of spaghetti), and I&#039;ve been involved in multiple conversations where IT folk discuss how they should be transforming the company since they have all the best ideas.

Emerging technologies such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2006/10/soa_web_20_cage_match.php&quot;&gt;Web 2.0 and SOA&lt;/a&gt; are changing the way we think about IT, and the old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2006/08/may_we_live_in_interesting_tim.php&quot;&gt;application- and technology-centric approachs to IT solutions are breaking down&lt;/a&gt;. IT used to be the hero department, struggling to deliver huge IT assets that would have a dramatic impact on the business (think Wal-Mart&#039;s data warehouse). The future of IT is looking very different as it shrinks and moves to a facilitation role. It seems that a large portion of the IT community is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2006/10/what_do_they_know_that_we_dont.php&quot;&gt;having trouble adapting with these changes&lt;/a&gt; and reacting in a negative and defensive manner.

There&#039;s a huge amount of synergy between these technologies and modern business thinking around activity-based models of the business. I expect that companies which successfully leverage this synergy will realise a step-change in their business capabilities, and possibly even the much promised IT-business alignment. I expect the first step toward this goal might be some humility on the part of IT as it admits that the business does actually know what it&#039;s doing, and that there is a lot of valuable insight and thinking in the business community that we (in the IT commmunity) should be leveraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunatly the level of hubris shown in the slashdot comments is common in the IT community. In the just last couple of months I&#8217;ve read blogs compaining that IT doesn&#8217;t get the respect it deserves for being the smartest group of people in the company, I was present at a presentation advocating spaghetti-oriented architectures (since the heads of business folk are just full of spaghetti), and I&#8217;ve been involved in multiple conversations where IT folk discuss how they should be transforming the company since they have all the best ideas.</p>
<p>Emerging technologies such as <a href="http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2006/10/soa_web_20_cage_match.php">Web 2.0 and SOA</a> are changing the way we think about IT, and the old <a href="http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2006/08/may_we_live_in_interesting_tim.php">application- and technology-centric approachs to IT solutions are breaking down</a>. IT used to be the hero department, struggling to deliver huge IT assets that would have a dramatic impact on the business (think Wal-Mart&#8217;s data warehouse). The future of IT is looking very different as it shrinks and moves to a facilitation role. It seems that a large portion of the IT community is <a href="http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2006/10/what_do_they_know_that_we_dont.php">having trouble adapting with these changes</a> and reacting in a negative and defensive manner.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a huge amount of synergy between these technologies and modern business thinking around activity-based models of the business. I expect that companies which successfully leverage this synergy will realise a step-change in their business capabilities, and possibly even the much promised IT-business alignment. I expect the first step toward this goal might be some humility on the part of IT as it admits that the business does actually know what it&#8217;s doing, and that there is a lot of valuable insight and thinking in the business community that we (in the IT commmunity) should be leveraging.</p>
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