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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-20404</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice point about youtube, thanks for the info
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		<title>By: armadilloonastick</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-19175</link>
		<dc:creator>armadilloonastick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice point about youtube, thanks for the info</description>
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		<title>By: ianuk</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-18545</link>
		<dc:creator>ianuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good info in this blog thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good info in this blog thanks</p>
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		<title>By: W. Koenigsmann</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-2926</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Koenigsmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was once believed that people were born &quot;blank slates,&quot; but we know this isn&#039;t true.  People are all different, and some are smarter than others, some are born with artistic gifts and talents, and so on; however, the majority of people during all time periods were probably always mediocre or average.  I used to think the media was used to &quot;dumb&quot; people down with, but clearly, it can&#039;t be that everyone is unsatisfied with movies, television, and pop songs, or else there would be protests from large groups of individuals who demand something different instead of &quot;friends&quot; reruns.

I agree that the only downside of &quot;dumb&quot; or mediocre people flooding the media, including the internet, is that we won&#039;t be able to discern a genius from a marginally talented person, but this isn&#039;t deliberate, it&#039;s because people relate to the mental or intellectual state they are at, and most people are not geniuses.  Therefore, birds of a feather flock together and if there are more average people in the world than exceptional, then expect to see more average people being crowned as geniuses, while the van Goghs starve.

As Nietzsche said in regarding &quot;the flies of the marketplace,&quot; &#039;it is the way of the world.&#039;

(As for the person who told you that you are too &quot;critical,&quot; that person needs to get a life!  This is exactly the kind of nonsense comment that makes our culture even more stupid.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was once believed that people were born &#8220;blank slates,&#8221; but we know this isn&#8217;t true.  People are all different, and some are smarter than others, some are born with artistic gifts and talents, and so on; however, the majority of people during all time periods were probably always mediocre or average.  I used to think the media was used to &#8220;dumb&#8221; people down with, but clearly, it can&#8217;t be that everyone is unsatisfied with movies, television, and pop songs, or else there would be protests from large groups of individuals who demand something different instead of &#8220;friends&#8221; reruns.</p>
<p>I agree that the only downside of &#8220;dumb&#8221; or mediocre people flooding the media, including the internet, is that we won&#8217;t be able to discern a genius from a marginally talented person, but this isn&#8217;t deliberate, it&#8217;s because people relate to the mental or intellectual state they are at, and most people are not geniuses.  Therefore, birds of a feather flock together and if there are more average people in the world than exceptional, then expect to see more average people being crowned as geniuses, while the van Goghs starve.</p>
<p>As Nietzsche said in regarding &#8220;the flies of the marketplace,&#8221; &#8216;it is the way of the world.&#8217;</p>
<p>(As for the person who told you that you are too &#8220;critical,&#8221; that person needs to get a life!  This is exactly the kind of nonsense comment that makes our culture even more stupid.)</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It must be true that history repeats itself, and that innovation and evolution cycles repeat more rapidly online, because this discussion has taken place several times in the last decade. 

&gt;&gt;The question is, is this development to be welcomed or decried? The decriers most common worry is one of dumbing downÂ—that Web 2.0 is yielding a sea of bad online content that threatens to drown the good.

The BBS crowd voiced the above sentiment when Windows came along. The early online adopters echoed the BBS crowd when AOL made it possible for nearly anyone to get online. The &#039;old&#039; computer gurus denounced the new generation of online chat rooms. The early webmasters recoiled in horror when Geocities came along and made it possible for almost anyone to have their own website. 

Now it&#039;s Myspace and youtube taking the heat simply because the barrier to entry has been lowered yet again. There&#039;s really very little that&#039;s new about &#039;Web 2.0&#039;.  

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand. People seem to have forgotten about Pareto and then wonder why Myspace is filled with space that has been neglected and why Digg is dealing with corruption Thankfully, the web economy is robust enough to weather this storm. 

The people that are so excited about how easy it is to have a voice would do well to recall the wise words of Edward R. Murrow.  Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn&#039;t mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be true that history repeats itself, and that innovation and evolution cycles repeat more rapidly online, because this discussion has taken place several times in the last decade. </p>
<p>>>The question is, is this development to be welcomed or decried? The decriers most common worry is one of dumbing downÂ—that Web 2.0 is yielding a sea of bad online content that threatens to drown the good.</p>
<p>The BBS crowd voiced the above sentiment when Windows came along. The early online adopters echoed the BBS crowd when AOL made it possible for nearly anyone to get online. The &#8216;old&#8217; computer gurus denounced the new generation of online chat rooms. The early webmasters recoiled in horror when Geocities came along and made it possible for almost anyone to have their own website. </p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s Myspace and youtube taking the heat simply because the barrier to entry has been lowered yet again. There&#8217;s really very little that&#8217;s new about &#8216;Web 2.0&#8242;.  </p>
<p>Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand. People seem to have forgotten about Pareto and then wonder why Myspace is filled with space that has been neglected and why Digg is dealing with corruption Thankfully, the web economy is robust enough to weather this storm. </p>
<p>The people that are so excited about how easy it is to have a voice would do well to recall the wise words of Edward R. Murrow.  Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn&#8217;t mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Nell Minow</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-2924</link>
		<dc:creator>Nell Minow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb post!  Yes, the democratization of media has, for better and worse, presented us with more information about each other than we ever wanted to know. But I have been impressed with the elegance of the solution -- the appearance of filters like the self-regulated ratings systems used on YouTube and eBay and by sites that cull the unfiltered, a sort of meta-Wiki.

I also appreciate the reference to my dad, but his name is Newton Minow, not Nelson.  All best for a Web 3.0 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb post!  Yes, the democratization of media has, for better and worse, presented us with more information about each other than we ever wanted to know. But I have been impressed with the elegance of the solution &#8212; the appearance of filters like the self-regulated ratings systems used on YouTube and eBay and by sites that cull the unfiltered, a sort of meta-Wiki.</p>
<p>I also appreciate the reference to my dad, but his name is Newton Minow, not Nelson.  All best for a Web 3.0 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Leyva</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-2923</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Leyva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post! 

I am not so sure that your disclaimer about being &quot;off topic&quot; is necessary. Culture impacts the way businesses respond and therefore the  emerging &quot;tech culture&quot; has at least an indirect impact on what businesses do, in some cases they may in fact be driving it.

The good, the bad, and the ugly are all relevant vis-a-vis capturing human experience and while there are things humanity might need &quot;saving from&quot; bad content is not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post! </p>
<p>I am not so sure that your disclaimer about being &#8220;off topic&#8221; is necessary. Culture impacts the way businesses respond and therefore the  emerging &#8220;tech culture&#8221; has at least an indirect impact on what businesses do, in some cases they may in fact be driving it.</p>
<p>The good, the bad, and the ugly are all relevant vis-a-vis capturing human experience and while there are things humanity might need &#8220;saving from&#8221; bad content is not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-2922</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that you find something that interests you on the internet, something that makes you happy.
  You don&#039;t seems very happy in very many ways and you sure are critical of the many things that make so many other people happy.  Maybe you could subscribe to the &#039;Rule of Thumper&#039;, &quot;If you don&#039;t have anything nice to say, don&#039;t say anything at all&quot;.  I wish you peace and happiness, and remember without the internet, no one would have read you words.  Something to think about :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that you find something that interests you on the internet, something that makes you happy.<br />
  You don&#8217;t seems very happy in very many ways and you sure are critical of the many things that make so many other people happy.  Maybe you could subscribe to the &#8216;Rule of Thumper&#8217;, &#8220;If you don&#8217;t have anything nice to say, don&#8217;t say anything at all&#8221;.  I wish you peace and happiness, and remember without the internet, no one would have read you words.  Something to think about <img src='http://andrewmcafee.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Mandel</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2006/12/wising_up_about_dumbing_down/comment-page-1/#comment-2921</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Mandel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reactions to revolutionary happenings usually follow a standard 3-stage development: 1) this is meaningless and no one will care, 2) this is the end of all that is good, and 3) we actually invented it first. I can&#039;t wait until #3 starts appearing.

More to the point - and especially because you reference The Canterbury Tales (which you *should* read; it&#039;s hilarious and beautiful) - the &#039;dumbing down&#039; objection is exactly the one made to movable type. Now just *anyone* can author a book; it&#039;ll lead to dumbing down. And, of course, it did! But, it led to much more as well -- including the Canterbury Tales, which would never have found its way to us without the invention of movable type not so long before it was set and printed.

Indeed, Chaucer&#039;s great work - with its endless catalog of ironic portraiture of the present moment - is probably more like youTube than most people would think possible. Now, it&#039;s part of the Canon; once it was popular entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reactions to revolutionary happenings usually follow a standard 3-stage development: 1) this is meaningless and no one will care, 2) this is the end of all that is good, and 3) we actually invented it first. I can&#8217;t wait until #3 starts appearing.</p>
<p>More to the point &#8211; and especially because you reference The Canterbury Tales (which you *should* read; it&#8217;s hilarious and beautiful) &#8211; the &#8216;dumbing down&#8217; objection is exactly the one made to movable type. Now just *anyone* can author a book; it&#8217;ll lead to dumbing down. And, of course, it did! But, it led to much more as well &#8212; including the Canterbury Tales, which would never have found its way to us without the invention of movable type not so long before it was set and printed.</p>
<p>Indeed, Chaucer&#8217;s great work &#8211; with its endless catalog of ironic portraiture of the present moment &#8211; is probably more like youTube than most people would think possible. Now, it&#8217;s part of the Canon; once it was popular entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schaffner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schaffner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, Hear!

Your argument is very eloquently stated.

Wanting to be optimistic in nature, I remind myself that diamonds are valued because of their rarity.  Perhaps it will be only with having to suffer through the &quot;dumb&quot; will we appreciate the true &quot;diamonds&quot; in Web 2.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, Hear!</p>
<p>Your argument is very eloquently stated.</p>
<p>Wanting to be optimistic in nature, I remind myself that diamonds are valued because of their rarity.  Perhaps it will be only with having to suffer through the &#8220;dumb&#8221; will we appreciate the true &#8220;diamonds&#8221; in Web 2.0</p>
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