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		<title>By: johncherrington</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-20207</link>
		<dc:creator>johncherrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working for the past 35 years and have witnessed the advent of the computer introduction is some major industries. Prior to this introduction the methods used for communication to the work force and issuing of latest standards were paper (mass circlation of letters) and newsletters/project briefings. As time progressed there was the introduction of bullet boards which gave a common forum for the distribution of information to all users that have access to the systems. Additionally earlier systems provided very simple versions of emails which were really no more than notes. On some earlier dec based systems electronic notice boards were to provide communication and indstruction to the users.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope this helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working for the past 35 years and have witnessed the advent of the computer introduction is some major industries. Prior to this introduction the methods used for communication to the work force and issuing of latest standards were paper (mass circlation of letters) and newsletters/project briefings. As time progressed there was the introduction of bullet boards which gave a common forum for the distribution of information to all users that have access to the systems. Additionally earlier systems provided very simple versions of emails which were really no more than notes. On some earlier dec based systems electronic notice boards were to provide communication and indstruction to the users.</p>
<p>Hope this helps</p>
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		<title>By: johncherrington</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19580</link>
		<dc:creator>johncherrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working for the past 35 years and have witnessed the advent of the computer introduction is some major industries. Prior to this introduction the methods used for communication to the work force and issuing of latest standards were paper (mass circlation of letters) and newsletters/project briefings. As time progressed there was the introduction of bullet boards which gave a common forum for the distribution of information to all users that have access to the systems. Additionally earlier systems provided very simple versions of emails which were really no more than notes. On some earlier dec based systems electronic notice boards were to provide communication and indstruction to the users.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope this helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working for the past 35 years and have witnessed the advent of the computer introduction is some major industries. Prior to this introduction the methods used for communication to the work force and issuing of latest standards were paper (mass circlation of letters) and newsletters/project briefings. As time progressed there was the introduction of bullet boards which gave a common forum for the distribution of information to all users that have access to the systems. Additionally earlier systems provided very simple versions of emails which were really no more than notes. On some earlier dec based systems electronic notice boards were to provide communication and indstruction to the users.</p>
<p>Hope this helps</p>
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		<title>By: On Business Card Printing</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-18809</link>
		<dc:creator>On Business Card Printing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What seems to be missing is the consideration of non-digital forms for updating weak ties and drawing in potential ones. Business cards, as mentioned before, were certainly used a lot for getting your contact info initially to someone, but it seems that the question is how did businesses update contacts or prospects with new information?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most businesses had to rely on memos for inner office communication and direct mail for outer office communication. Post-it notes seemed to be common form of passing along memos within the office. Letterheads were also used, and still seem to be used quite a bit, to send letters updating business ties of new changes within the firm. Handwritten notes inside of note cards still are used to send individuals pieces of information, such as in the real estate business.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Before the digital age, letters and other printed forms of communication were the only way to keep in contact across a large firm and with prospective clients. And although Web 2.0 certainly has made communication a lot easier, too many businesses are relying solely on their blogs or SNS to keep in touch with weak ties, making their connections with some of those ties even weaker. Even today, a variety of communication methods is still very necessary and vital to keeping or strengthening lose ties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What seems to be missing is the consideration of non-digital forms for updating weak ties and drawing in potential ones. Business cards, as mentioned before, were certainly used a lot for getting your contact info initially to someone, but it seems that the question is how did businesses update contacts or prospects with new information?</p>
<p>Most businesses had to rely on memos for inner office communication and direct mail for outer office communication. Post-it notes seemed to be common form of passing along memos within the office. Letterheads were also used, and still seem to be used quite a bit, to send letters updating business ties of new changes within the firm. Handwritten notes inside of note cards still are used to send individuals pieces of information, such as in the real estate business.</p>
<p>Before the digital age, letters and other printed forms of communication were the only way to keep in contact across a large firm and with prospective clients. And although Web 2.0 certainly has made communication a lot easier, too many businesses are relying solely on their blogs or SNS to keep in touch with weak ties, making their connections with some of those ties even weaker. Even today, a variety of communication methods is still very necessary and vital to keeping or strengthening lose ties.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schultz</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw quite a bit of success with creative use of forums in the early 90&#039;s, some of which were more effective than current technology because there was less noise to compete with.

And don&#039;t forget the importance of user groups, customer forums and conferences. They&#039;ve long served as a means to extract, and share, key information within specific industries/vertical markets -- uniting people in 2nd and 3rd bullseye networks quite effectively and helping to grow/introduce new contacts to the network.

Michael Schultz
President, Message Infusion 
www.messageinfusion.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw quite a bit of success with creative use of forums in the early 90&#8242;s, some of which were more effective than current technology because there was less noise to compete with.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget the importance of user groups, customer forums and conferences. They&#8217;ve long served as a means to extract, and share, key information within specific industries/vertical markets &#8212; uniting people in 2nd and 3rd bullseye networks quite effectively and helping to grow/introduce new contacts to the network.</p>
<p>Michael Schultz<br />
President, Message Infusion<br />
<a href="http://www.messageinfusion.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.messageinfusion.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3789</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that forum and Lotus Notes software are not new, and often supported use of weak and potential ties - in the relatively small number of organizations that drank deeply of that kool aid. 

But I think you&#039;re right that the E2.0 world represents something new under the sun. Only with the advent of the (nearly) ubiquitous and universal web has it been possible to use digital technology to extendour opportunities to establish new connections outside an IT silo and maintain them without physical travel, one-on-one networking, or traditional publication. 

In the past I met often made new and serendipitous connections though direct referrals from existing colleagues, going to conferences, customer meetings, traveling to other offices, or reading papers and journals (primarily for research).

I think Enterprise 2.0 is significant because it supports new patterns of connection that: 1) extend far beyond traditional boundaries; 2) provide near-real time electronic connections that can be established by serendipitous discovery; 3) reinforce the value of old fashioned and irreplaceable face to face connections by letting people keep in touch with their extended network without creating undue work for either the sender or receiver.

Your bullseye model makes it easy to see that some strongly connected groups are intentional and not necessarily emergent - it&#039;s no surprise that GM has groups who collaborate on designing a new car. However the relationships among groups and the weak and potential ties that connect individuals certainly meet your emergent criteria. 

I particularly like how your rings make it easy to talk about connection strength and connection discovery as well as connection patterns. &lt;a href=&quot;http://traction.tractionsoftware.com/traction/permalink/Blog640&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that forum and Lotus Notes software are not new, and often supported use of weak and potential ties &#8211; in the relatively small number of organizations that drank deeply of that kool aid. </p>
<p>But I think you&#8217;re right that the E2.0 world represents something new under the sun. Only with the advent of the (nearly) ubiquitous and universal web has it been possible to use digital technology to extendour opportunities to establish new connections outside an IT silo and maintain them without physical travel, one-on-one networking, or traditional publication. </p>
<p>In the past I met often made new and serendipitous connections though direct referrals from existing colleagues, going to conferences, customer meetings, traveling to other offices, or reading papers and journals (primarily for research).</p>
<p>I think Enterprise 2.0 is significant because it supports new patterns of connection that: 1) extend far beyond traditional boundaries; 2) provide near-real time electronic connections that can be established by serendipitous discovery; 3) reinforce the value of old fashioned and irreplaceable face to face connections by letting people keep in touch with their extended network without creating undue work for either the sender or receiver.</p>
<p>Your bullseye model makes it easy to see that some strongly connected groups are intentional and not necessarily emergent &#8211; it&#8217;s no surprise that GM has groups who collaborate on designing a new car. However the relationships among groups and the weak and potential ties that connect individuals certainly meet your emergent criteria. </p>
<p>I particularly like how your rings make it easy to talk about connection strength and connection discovery as well as connection patterns. <a href="http://traction.tractionsoftware.com/traction/permalink/Blog640">Here</a>&#8216;s an example.</p>
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		<title>By: Tory</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At McKinsey in the late 90s, connecting knowledge across a Firm of weak ties was a big deal.  Internal Practices existed across all sorts of industries and functions and countries.  A directory could quickly point you to internal experts in any of them.  Firm culture was strong on quick callbacks when somebody wanted to tap your expertise, even if you never met them.  

Lotus Notes was a big part of knowledge sharing.  Almost every client engagement ends in a sanitized (i.e. no confidential info or client names) internal practice document to capture learnings from the project (they factor into getting elected partner).  Those documents (almost always Powerpoint) went in indexed Lotus Notes databases.  By searching the databases, you might not find the specific knowledge you need, but from the document authors you could almost certainly find the internal experts you need to talk to.

What was missing was the frequency of small bits of info in blogs, as well as the editability and commentability of wikis.  But most of the SNS capability was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At McKinsey in the late 90s, connecting knowledge across a Firm of weak ties was a big deal.  Internal Practices existed across all sorts of industries and functions and countries.  A directory could quickly point you to internal experts in any of them.  Firm culture was strong on quick callbacks when somebody wanted to tap your expertise, even if you never met them.  </p>
<p>Lotus Notes was a big part of knowledge sharing.  Almost every client engagement ends in a sanitized (i.e. no confidential info or client names) internal practice document to capture learnings from the project (they factor into getting elected partner).  Those documents (almost always Powerpoint) went in indexed Lotus Notes databases.  By searching the databases, you might not find the specific knowledge you need, but from the document authors you could almost certainly find the internal experts you need to talk to.</p>
<p>What was missing was the frequency of small bits of info in blogs, as well as the editability and commentability of wikis.  But most of the SNS capability was there.</p>
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		<title>By: Â’Â†Â‘ÂºÂ]Â—Â¢ÂŽqÂ@ÂƒuÂƒÂÂƒO</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3787</link>
		<dc:creator>Â’Â†Â‘ÂºÂ]Â—Â¢ÂŽqÂ@ÂƒuÂƒÂÂƒO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i! I am a Japanese. Though I looked for English study in various ways, I commented because contents were interesting. I was able to enjoy it very much. In addition, I come to look. Please keep it for us. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i! I am a Japanese. Though I looked for English study in various ways, I commented because contents were interesting. I was able to enjoy it very much. In addition, I come to look. Please keep it for us. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Ismert</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Ismert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One computer technology example that hasn&#039;t been cited yet is the software source code version control systems that many organizations have in place (and have had for many years).  In large code bases, it is entirely possible that the developers / maintainers are working in a different locations, yet the metadata from the systems (user names and check-in comments) form both the content and context for (occasional or frequent) collaboration.

One weakness of this example is that this metadata ceases to perform the role or facilitating weak links once the software developers move to different projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One computer technology example that hasn&#8217;t been cited yet is the software source code version control systems that many organizations have in place (and have had for many years).  In large code bases, it is entirely possible that the developers / maintainers are working in a different locations, yet the metadata from the systems (user names and check-in comments) form both the content and context for (occasional or frequent) collaboration.</p>
<p>One weakness of this example is that this metadata ceases to perform the role or facilitating weak links once the software developers move to different projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Carswell</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3785</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Carswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forums is what sprang to my mind also.  There have been web-based forums in fairly widespread use since the late &#039;90s on the Web.  There were also the Usenet newsgroups, which got consolidated into a web-based archive and managed by, I think, Yahoo! for a while. All these preceded the invention of the term Web 2.0, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forums is what sprang to my mind also.  There have been web-based forums in fairly widespread use since the late &#8217;90s on the Web.  There were also the Usenet newsgroups, which got consolidated into a web-based archive and managed by, I think, Yahoo! for a while. All these preceded the invention of the term Web 2.0, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Madalin</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2008/05/something_new_under_the_sun/comment-page-1/#comment-3784</link>
		<dc:creator>Madalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I see how much the business environment has changed due to the web 2.0 technologies, I can&#039;t help wondering if a 3.0 version will appear anytime soon, and how would that manifest to improve even more the business development...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I see how much the business environment has changed due to the web 2.0 technologies, I can&#8217;t help wondering if a 3.0 version will appear anytime soon, and how would that manifest to improve even more the business development&#8230;</p>
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