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		<title>By: pixbook</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2009/01/have-things-really-been-that-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-18571</link>
		<dc:creator>pixbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t fully understand all this Web2.0 business talk. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.101waystomakemoney.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ways to make money&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t fully understand all this Web2.0 business talk. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.101waystomakemoney.com" rel="nofollow">Ways to make money</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Chloe</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2009/01/have-things-really-been-that-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-13324</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t fully understand all this Web2.0 business talk, it&#039;s got me excited to see some shifts that really are the difference between day and night. Can you proffer some drastic vision of the future for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#39;t fully understand all this Web2.0 business talk, it&#39;s got me excited to see some shifts that really are the difference between day and night. Can you proffer some drastic vision of the future for us?</p>
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		<title>By: The big and small of IT : Andrew McAfee&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The big and small of IT : Andrew McAfee&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commentsComments to this post  A little while back I critiqued some claims made by Oliver Young about the impact of 2.0 technologies. I saw these claims as too [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://andrewmcafee.org/2009/01/have-things-really-been-that-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-4454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s that old adage ... ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We tend to over-estimate impacts in the short term because of all the &quot;machinery&quot; of the existing systems, and under-estimate the (cumulative) impacts in the longer term because our necessarily limited view on the scope and reach of the activities and systems.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do agree it will not be day and night, in terms of difference, but I also believe that the accumulated changes will eventually create something clearly different than today&#039;s capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s that old adage &#8230; ?</p>
<p>We tend to over-estimate impacts in the short term because of all the &#8220;machinery&#8221; of the existing systems, and under-estimate the (cumulative) impacts in the longer term because our necessarily limited view on the scope and reach of the activities and systems.</p>
<p>I do agree it will not be day and night, in terms of difference, but I also believe that the accumulated changes will eventually create something clearly different than today&#39;s capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Shevlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Shevlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. After reading Young&#039;s post, my first thought was that juxtaposing the words &quot;fundamental&quot; and &quot;rethinking&quot; should be banned from usage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And while I agree that many bloggers (in particular) talk and write as if there was no progress before they came belong, I think there&#039;s another motivation underlying their thoughts: The desire to be a part of the &quot;revolution&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And this is something that not just today Gen Yers are guilty of. Twenty-five years ago it was the revolution that PCs would bring about, then it was the client/server revolution, followed by the knowledge management revolution, then the Internet (Web 1.0) revolution, and now the Web 2.0 revolution. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What IS different this time around, however, is -- thanks to blogs -- the number of people who are able to make their thoughts about the so-called revolution publicly heard. And when you&#039;re surrounded by a lot of people who echo your thoughts about the need for a &quot;fundamental rethinking&quot;, then you start believing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211;</p>
<p>I couldn&#39;t agree with you more. After reading Young&#39;s post, my first thought was that juxtaposing the words &#8220;fundamental&#8221; and &#8220;rethinking&#8221; should be banned from usage.</p>
<p>And while I agree that many bloggers (in particular) talk and write as if there was no progress before they came belong, I think there&#39;s another motivation underlying their thoughts: The desire to be a part of the &#8220;revolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>And this is something that not just today Gen Yers are guilty of. Twenty-five years ago it was the revolution that PCs would bring about, then it was the client/server revolution, followed by the knowledge management revolution, then the Internet (Web 1.0) revolution, and now the Web 2.0 revolution. </p>
<p>What IS different this time around, however, is &#8212; thanks to blogs &#8212; the number of people who are able to make their thoughts about the so-called revolution publicly heard. And when you&#39;re surrounded by a lot of people who echo your thoughts about the need for a &#8220;fundamental rethinking&#8221;, then you start believing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mihai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the revolution that happens within the companies?  Workers will be able to communicate and figure out things much faster because Web/Enterprise 2.0 can be thought as a huge communication pipeline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the revolution that happens within the companies?  Workers will be able to communicate and figure out things much faster because Web/Enterprise 2.0 can be thought as a huge communication pipeline.</p>
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		<title>By: D.J. James</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.J. James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much time figuring out the fastest way to collect too much data. Then additional wasted capacity trying to analyze that data. Capacity is being wasted and that&#039;s a slice of the economic crisis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve spent the last decade watching our profit being invested in digital media. That department now is four times the investment of our real product manufacturing yet they only bring 15% of the total revenue after a true seven-year run-up. It started with fantastic speeches about  how this was the future and technology would simplify our work and cut costs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, we are being told it&#039;s over and we&#039;ve got to go all in for digital. The new CEO comes in and the speeches are the same as the ones from 2001-2002, but the terminology has slightly changed. This time, we&#039;ve got to do the work and it&#039;s going to be hard and it&#039;s pretty much 24/7. Interesting how it&#039;s changed. Now websites and digital products are expensive and hard to produce and we all have to sacrifice and do more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why do we have to go all in? Because that&#039;s what the business media says. Here&#039;s the reality, we don&#039;t need a social site and we don&#039;t even need a website. We need to keep that digital brochure out there and direct people to the our website re-sellers. Cut that digital to the bone and focus on building real products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much time figuring out the fastest way to collect too much data. Then additional wasted capacity trying to analyze that data. Capacity is being wasted and that&#39;s a slice of the economic crisis.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve spent the last decade watching our profit being invested in digital media. That department now is four times the investment of our real product manufacturing yet they only bring 15% of the total revenue after a true seven-year run-up. It started with fantastic speeches about  how this was the future and technology would simplify our work and cut costs.</p>
<p>Now, we are being told it&#39;s over and we&#39;ve got to go all in for digital. The new CEO comes in and the speeches are the same as the ones from 2001-2002, but the terminology has slightly changed. This time, we&#39;ve got to do the work and it&#39;s going to be hard and it&#39;s pretty much 24/7. Interesting how it&#39;s changed. Now websites and digital products are expensive and hard to produce and we all have to sacrifice and do more.</p>
<p>Why do we have to go all in? Because that&#39;s what the business media says. Here&#39;s the reality, we don&#39;t need a social site and we don&#39;t even need a website. We need to keep that digital brochure out there and direct people to the our website re-sellers. Cut that digital to the bone and focus on building real products.</p>
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		<title>By: Challenges of &#8216;open systems&#8217; for creating value &#171; Think Much - by Penny Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Challenges of &#8216;open systems&#8217; for creating value &#171; Think Much - by Penny Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PennyEdwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>PennyEdwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly, new social technologies have the potential to reduce barriers to participation and create value for businesses at the same time as they deliver value to customers (e.g. aggregating and connecting content, ideas, behaviours and resources to create personalised buying recommendations, and new product and service offerings).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, familiar longstanding challenges remain and are compounded by the effect of those technologies.  Namely, that people still need the skill to spot opportunities for creating value, and must now do so from increasing flows of information and interaction.  Furthermore, a more open value creation system means companies must relinquish (to a certain degree) control over the creation process.  Traditionally this has been very difficult for companies to do. The technology may be there, but it needs to be accompanied by the right mindsets and skills to be truly useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, new social technologies have the potential to reduce barriers to participation and create value for businesses at the same time as they deliver value to customers (e.g. aggregating and connecting content, ideas, behaviours and resources to create personalised buying recommendations, and new product and service offerings).  </p>
<p>However, familiar longstanding challenges remain and are compounded by the effect of those technologies.  Namely, that people still need the skill to spot opportunities for creating value, and must now do so from increasing flows of information and interaction.  Furthermore, a more open value creation system means companies must relinquish (to a certain degree) control over the creation process.  Traditionally this has been very difficult for companies to do. The technology may be there, but it needs to be accompanied by the right mindsets and skills to be truly useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Dag Blakstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dag Blakstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it as i bit early to say what levels are under/overselling Web 2.0. What is interesting as that Kamal&#039;s points are scaled to a previously unseen level (Mass Collaboration). 

It will be very interesting to observe what happens with innovation models for existing companies, and how it will help startups compete with the established ones.

Through history it can be technological and sociological shifts has turned things up side down, where yesterdays winners became loosers. The velocity of this will probably decide if it is a revolution or not.

Lately there has been talk of the Tipping Point theory coming into play here. When social media and open innovation models reaches a certain level it will evolve &quot;epidemically&quot;. 

I am no academic about this matter, but nevertheless I&#039;ve written a blog post about it on my name link provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it as i bit early to say what levels are under/overselling Web 2.0. What is interesting as that Kamal&#8217;s points are scaled to a previously unseen level (Mass Collaboration). </p>
<p>It will be very interesting to observe what happens with innovation models for existing companies, and how it will help startups compete with the established ones.</p>
<p>Through history it can be technological and sociological shifts has turned things up side down, where yesterdays winners became loosers. The velocity of this will probably decide if it is a revolution or not.</p>
<p>Lately there has been talk of the Tipping Point theory coming into play here. When social media and open innovation models reaches a certain level it will evolve &#8220;epidemically&#8221;. </p>
<p>I am no academic about this matter, but nevertheless I&#8217;ve written a blog post about it on my name link provided.</p>
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